Money in the Bank

by Spoony on July 18, 2011 · 170 comments

Tagged as: cm punk, john cena, money in the bank, ppv, WWE

http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Paynexkiller-Hobbs/100001369657106 Josh Paynexkiller Hobbs

Best PPV of the year? This is how good WrestleMania should be every year. Perfect ending to every match.

Also, amazing seeing you doing this again Spooney. If you post them, we will all be here to see what you have to say!

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jean-Francois-Glaude/665595468 Jean-Francois Glaude

Yep i agree, i was also starting to think this site would die but glad to see something new.
Hang in there Noah!! lol

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gabriel-Maldonado/100001066432620 Gabriel Maldonado

I still can’t get over the fact that they have the bottom five worst Divas in the company (Kelly, Eve, Brie, Nikki, and Alicia Fox, who is dominating on Smackdown) eating all of the little spotlight given to Divas, with Kelly being the worst one of them. Why are the worst Divas feuding over the belt with the worst one holding it? This is driving me INSANE! All the wile, Beth Phoenix, Maryse, Gail Kim, and Melina are having great matches on Superstars that SHOULD be on the PPVs.
http://twitter.com/strife17 Eric Rivera

CM Punk put the title in his fridge. I am not lying.

http://yfrog.com/kkb09zyj

Thank god that thing isn’t blocking the Cherry Pepsi

Anonymous

THAT is so awesome…
Anonymous

Let’s see…. soda, apple juice, purple stuff, sunny d, OH CHAMPIONSHIP BELT ALRIGHT!!!

http://www.facebook.com/TWKofTWKEntertainment Nick Gutierrez

Overall, this was a very good PPV. BTW you guys left out Sheamus when it comes to #1 contenders for the world title.

Anonymous

Sheamus hasn’t been on a singles match on PPV since December of last year, never won a match clean in either of his championship reigns, spent months losing every match he was in after his KOTR win, lost to Mark Henry on TV as Henry’s only victory as a babyface in over a year, lost clean to Evan Bourne in less than five minutes, never won a match as U.S. champion, got his WM match kicked down to a dark match that the Great Khali ended up winning, got drafted to the B-Show, and had his draft to Smackdown announced over the internet instead of on TV.

Sheamus will be lucky to come out of this with anything resembling a career, much less another world title shot, and it’s a damn shame, he has more talent that all but 5 full time guys on the WWE roster.

Anonymous

Did you miss him taking out both Christian and Orton?

Sheamus is getting pushed, either as a heel to keep Orton busy while Christian does something else or as face to feud with Christian.

http://www.facebook.com/Panzergoob Jon Fite

Surprised WWE had the balls to let CM Punk actually leave with the title.
http://www.facebook.com/JousterRed Brandon Jones

Speaking of Pawning the WWE title! http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/punkbelt_109472.jpg
Anonymous

Cena legit hurt his leg, he’s used to working under injury.
http://twitter.com/RealTalkRants Kyle Childers

Glad to see Spoony back on #WrestleWrestle and not that sentient bean bag Fausz.

http://twitter.com/Dante_000 Jake Jenner

Dude what with the hate? Sean is a great reviewer and what does weight have to do with the INTERNET, it douchebags like you that makes me the the annonimity of the internet, i bet your not perfect either so please take the trolling else where

Anonymous

Internet actually likes Cody, he’s good in ring and has a pretty good gimick.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

I’ll agree with you on the ring. That Phantom of the Runnels Clan gimmick, though? GOTS TO GO.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=713250984 Tyler Polishak

I was saying they should redub the ladder duels from the Raw MitB match with lightsaber sound effects.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Leuchtmann/580156441 Mike Leuchtmann

Hands down, best PPV since ONS #1.
Anonymous

You guys didn’t bring up the most important thing, the commentaters were god awful, like the worst ever. The mention of the leg was to cover for Punk botching the previous move, and Cena had no idea they were selling it.
http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

Did you put on the Red Lantern shirt in anticipation of having great rage in your heart?

Im just hoping after experiencing that crowd reaction in person Vince realises its better not to tell the fans what they want. Its just a shame the Diva’s continue to be dreadful.

Anonymous

The Leg DDT is a move used by lots of people to work the knee. Standard wrestling move.

http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

But never executed that poorly. she made the Bella stomp her foot which just looked stupid

http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Uram/684835496 Robert Uram

I don’t know if this is what you meant, Spoony, when you were talking about WWE doing worked shoot angles, but Joey Styles did a big worked shoot promo about 5 years ago. That’s still quite a while ago. When WWE does this shit, normally it’s special so it actually means something, as opposed to TNA where it’s business as usual.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Sheades/1357200981 Justin Sheades

You know Cena has more moves than people are willing to admit, but at the same time he doesn’t have the repertoire to put on a goddam 40 minute match, and last night showed showed both. And DBD winning it was a true, legit mark out moment.

Oh, one more thing. Please, please please PLEASE bring Josh Mathews back onto the PPV commentators table. He and Scott Stanford are the best full time commentators you got, take advantage of them!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sami-Ryyppö/1444333656 Sami Ryyppö

I think Vince might try to buy the title from Punk. I’ve also heard some rumors of WWE and ROH starting a partnership and Punk going to ROH with the title.

And as for Cena, he could just “get fired”, go make another movie and “get signed back”.
Jamal Prewitt

I’m a huge Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) fan and the fact WWE let him win Money in the Bank was an awesome feeling. Then, by the end of the night, CM Punk defeats Cena? Overall, a fantastic night for the Indy Wrestling fans.

Oh, and on Smackdown, the only contenders I can name right off is Mark Henry and Sheamus (since he was in between Christian and Orton’s fued).
Jamal Prewitt

I’m a huge Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) fan and the fact WWE let him win Money in the Bank was an awesome feeling. Then, by the end of the night, CM Punk defeats Cena? Overall, a fantastic night for the Indy Wrestling fans.

Oh, and on Smackdown, the only contenders I can name right off is Mark Henry and Sheamus (since he was in between Christian and Orton’s fued).
http://twitter.com/TheMuselessOne Justin Storm

What seems to me like it’d be likely to have happen is Vince instituting a new title belt.

The Spinner title was brought in to go along with the spinning rims fad from the early to mid-2000′s. While the belt itself was expensive, the fact that they have used it for a series of years now are such that they can afford to replace the belt by now to a more traditional stylization fitting of the company’s premier title.

I’d like to see them go after a return to the Undisputed title’s styling.

That way, they can let Punk keep the “true” WWE title and give Del Rio (via the MitB) or someone else through a tournament the new one, letting the company get on with life but keeping the void between Punk as the true champ and the champ in place, possibly for a future storyline if they want to re-negotiate after Punk gets some time elsewhere (or someone else, if he loses the belt elsewhere to someone who eventually signs on with WWE – imagine the return of Charlie Haas or someone else from ROH who was with WWE prior), for a re-unification of the belt later.

Anonymous

I don’t think the WWE will put Punk over anyone for quite a while after what happened at MitB, he beat Cena via a clean pin for the title, nobody else has ever done that, Orton tapped out to Cena’s STF without the ref seeing anything during the HiaC match, even RVD had to have outside interference in his match after Cena beat up the referee at ONS ’06. Punk is in Superstar territory for life after MitB.

Anonymous

First of all, I want to thank both of you, because that vlog was as always entertaining as hell.
Now, about the PPV, I don’t have much to say that wasn’t already said. The cynical bastard in myself died during this PPV. It went far beyond my expectations (I was clearly not expecting DBD to win the MItB and Punk to actually leave with the title), even if as pretty much everyone here said that I would have loved to more talented female wrestlers for that title match.

It totally made me forgot about the “meh” Wrestlemania and I really hope WWE will not fuck this up, because they surely still can. But I’m really looking forward to see where they are going with this.
jayme wilt

Actually Sin Cara did not sell death, he was having convulsions due to an illegal drug he had ingested. Here is the examiner.com ( http://exm.nr/pGhUYJ ) article explaining the situation. Sin Cara has been suspended, so he will not receive Jeff Hardy treatment. This probably due to the fact that HHH has him as his top copetitior.

http://twitter.com/FinnishPhenom Mikko Laurinen

Okay, you just made that convulsion part up, dude. He was selling the spot and nothing but. How would they have possibly known to book him to get eliminated early if he had only done drugs just before the match? They would NOT fucking let him wrestle under the influence of anything. He used whatever, maybe just steroids, got caught in a test earlier, more likely than not several days earlier, and so was not booked to shine in the match, but rather ‘get hurt’ so he could sit out his punishment and have a storyline reason for not being around.

Sam

“Sell the leg you fucking twat” is going on a sign next TV taping i go to.
Anonymous

Well…Spoony you were right in that they would find some way of not firing Cena. They found a way.

By firing Vince!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Will-Jones/651945798 Will Jones

Legit best PPV WWE has put on in years, pushing the right people and the ballsiest ending in wrestling history, not joking. Everything bad was outweighed tenfold by all the good things that happened.

I watched this with about 8 friends live and it was a special, special night great time to bring back wrestle! wrestle!

Also, just a small thing, the first thing they teach you to do in wrestling training is bump, at least that’s how they do it here
http://www.facebook.com/people/Will-Jones/651945798 Will Jones

Legit best PPV WWE has put on in years, pushing the right people and the ballsiest ending in wrestling history, not joking. Everything bad was outweighed tenfold by all the good things that happened.

I watched this with about 8 friends live and it was a special, special night great time to bring back wrestle! wrestle!

Also, just a small thing, the first thing they teach you to do in wrestling training is bump, at least that’s how they do it here
Jason Stevens

Did anybody else laugh at Alberto running towards the ring to stop Punk. He looked so fucking goofy it was hilarious and to top it all off he got knocked out with one kick to the head.
Anonymous

I thought Cena did a decent job actually, he’s supposed to be a guy who doesn’t feel pain and never gives up, so it’s not like his no selling is a surprise to me. It’s annoying, but I think it made Punk look even better. Cena was the fucking Terminator, and Punk was the scrappy rebel armed with nothing more than his giant brass balls. He’s a Christian, HBK or AJ Styles as opposed to Cena’s Hogan, Warrior or Sting.

And it isn’t his fault the announce team started focusing on an injury that was born out of a botch. Most wrestlers go into overdrive when they get legit hurt, Chris Jericho talked about it in his book.

And Cena’s move set really isn’t that bad, that match he used the Fisherman’s and Gutwrench Suplex, the Spin-out Powerbomb, the Five Knuckle Shuffle, the Diving Leg Drop Bulldog, One Handed Bulldog, Attitude Adjustment, STF, Emerald Flowsion and the Shoulder Blocks. Not great but not that terrible either, Austin and Rock weren’t exactly Rey Mysterio in the ring.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Tetirick/100000898270925 Brian Tetirick

With the ending of RAW I’ve got a theory as to what will happen. Cena will get the title back sometime between now and Bragging Rights. Then CM Punk will return at the Royal Rumble and win it. He’ll then use the Rumble stipulation in order to insert himself into the Rock/Cena main event at Wrestlemania.
Personally I think that could work out great, especially with Punk coming in WEARING the old belt, and noting that while Cena may be A champion, he is THE champion.

http://www.facebook.com/KingKippy Nick Kipouros

If only WWE was even close to that clever

Anonymous

Hope you’ll be back to doing more wrestle wrestle again soon, really enjoying these. Just don’t overwork yourself with all those projects you got going.
Anonymous

Looks like they will have Miz or Mysterio winning the vacant WWE title next week (probablly Miz). It only makes sense for them to bring out CM Punk at some point wearing his belt to challenge the champion at some point. It’s just a question of when they’ll do it.

Anonymous

Like CM Punk would want to? If CM Punk wants to be gone he should be gone. If he shows up then I guess this is I guess a rediculous ploy to resign CM Punk since he tottally made his mark as of late.

Seriously this has been done before. Why don’t we just have the Rey VS Miz thing and not worry about CM Punk no more.

Anonymous

Looks like CM Punk isn’t quite gone yet. Here he is at ComicCon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NAvDqglbAE&feature=player_embedded#at=152

Anonymous

So, Raw is out and we now know how the WWE managed to not fire Cena as promised…they ‘relieve’ the man that was going to fire him. Odd move, but using Triple H as a sub for Linda McMahon kinda works here in building on the story for me. It’s almost as if the WWE has begun to listen to what’s being said about it lately…and making the adjustment not only behind the scenes but in the stories as well.

No CM Punk tonight…which makes us believe he really DID run away with the title..but the website STILL has him on the Raw roster. They declare a tournament for a new WWE Championship title, and that’s just logic. If someone steals a belt, go ahead and make a new one. If anything, this is even better than holding on to the old spinner-belt because it won’t be as weakened as that Cena-inspired belt has become…at least in the eyes of the older fans. And remember that all the character-driven ‘gimmick belts’ have never lasted long anyway (remember Austin’s Smoking Skull belt?).

Will Cena get a shot at the new title? Will CM Punk ever return with the old belt? Will this story pan out into something good? Will Triple H be reveiled as the secret Raw General Manager?

You know…I’m actually interested to find out…
http://twitter.com/Alexisironman Alex Young

FUCK YES NEW EPISODE WITH SPOONY ACTUALLY IN IT!!!!!

http://twitter.com/Dante_000 Jake Jenner

Talking of gimick belt, anyone remeber the TNA legends belt? I know it turned into the Television Title but who holds the belt now?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Luc-Bélanger/100000567236259 Luc Bélanger

You know, I understand you’re really busy with other projects, and that’s awesome. We’re all just happy when you can post a new vid (with Miles in it too! Hey Miles, you rock.) So since you seem to be interested in watching RAW again, maybe you could just focus on making smaller episodes and summarizing the show to its major points? Like no need to talk for 20 minutes about the Divas matches. Might be an idea if you can just talk about the major stuff and keep the episode under 15 minutes or so. It’s okay though, we know Wrestle! Wrestle! isn’t you priority right now, so just do what you have time for. We just like hearing you ramble about wrestling, even in this case when you actually enjoyed it. XD

Anonymous

If that’s the case I would mainly cover the highlights like this past RAW I would say “Vince got ousted and HHH is takeing over the business.” while saying key things like “Vince started a #1 contender match and in the first match it was x VS y and x won.” type thing. I agree with Luc Be’langer mostly and just do 20 min videos and sumerize it as best you can instead of rattling on certain subjects or describe a whole match.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

OK, I’m not even going to talk about Money in the Bank here (it was quite a thrill, I must say), I just wanna bitch about the Divas, since Spoony and Miles mentioned the God awful Kelly-Kelly/Bella match. So, if you don’t want to read bitching about the Divas, or if, god help you, you actually like the Divas, then please move on.

What in the sweet fuckity fuck happened to the Divas? Does anyone remember the pre-Diva days, the Women’s Championship days, or the days over a decade ago when the Divas were good? You competent wrestlers who knew how to fight, how to sell moves and how to act. They looked like wrestlers (IE, the had actual muscle and tone, they were, well, big women). They put on some damn fine matches. They had at least decent storylines. Nowadays, all we fucking have is a group of underfed, scrawny ditzy supermodels who can’t wrestle for absolute shit, act about as well the slumlords in any given Ewe Boll movie, have to absolute worst storylines of the entire WWE, and wouldn’t know how to sell a move if there life depended on it. God fucking damn it.

I mean come on, the only good Diva is Beth Phoenix, and she barely gets any air time whatsoever. Sure she had a damn fine match on the July 18th episode of Raw, but it was over far too soon. Would it kill the WWE to give us some at least some halfway decent Divas content? For fucks sake.

OK, the bitchfest is over. Thank you for reading.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

The /only/ good Diva is Beth Phoenix?

Natalya Neidhart and Gail Kim may want to have a word with you.

And they also had a fourth, Kharma…but she’s out with child.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

Okay, okay, you’ve got me there. Gail Kim, is pretty good and Kharma is damned awesome (I think I forgot about here because of the whole child thing), but I’d have to disagree with you on Natalya. Sorry, I just do not like her. But yeah, for me there are, what, three good Divas out of how many? Yeah, I still hate what’s currently going on with the Divas.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

Well, at least maybe we can agree that, thank Primus, Natalya is not sluttified like all of the other divas other than the other three aforementioned.

With the exception of Gail’s little sidetrip with Daniel Bryan, those four are all business. The rest are pretty much living Dead or Alive characters, just with a lot more realistic jiggle physics.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

Living DOA characters, I love it! Sums up the modern day Divas quite succinctly. Yeah, those that we have mentioned are very much all business and very fine wrestlers. Now if only the WWE would fucking do something with them.
Anonymous

Ok, to throw in my 2 cents….

The Diva’s division has been in free-fall for years now, with less and less talented female wrestlers put up for the title each time and basing more on looks and less on ability. This however is NOT a new thing.

Does ANYONE wanna guess how many Bra-and-Panty matches we had in the Attitude Era? Anyone? How many quasi-lesbian storylines? Pillow Fight matches? The WWE has a HORRIBLE record for female wrestling and that goes back all the way to the 1980s. Yes we’ve had a few decent ones pop up from time to time, but they often get buried in stupid love triangles with wrestlers they want to push or factions as managers. The WWE has almost zero respect for female wrestling.

It’s kinda said that the best wrestler in the Diva division that was actively shown (McCool..no I’m not kidding) was quickly turned into The Beautiful People Lite, made annoying…and then let go for…LAYLA??? Add in the fact that they dumped the serious-looking Women’s Championship for a belt that looks like plastic and you could buy at Toys R’ Us for $5. The Diva’s Belt itself is a statement of how serious the WWE takes the division: NOT AT ALL.

In my fantasy world I would re-do the division and keep the following: Natalya(yes I could find a way to work her in), Beth Phoenix, Gail Kim, Kharma, A.J. (sloppy but so was The Miz at first, I’m willing to give her a chance)…and that’s about it. Maryse HAS the physical ability, but her mic skills BLOW. She REALLY needs a LOT of help there. From the indies, I would pick up veterans like Del Ray and Daizee Haze and BEG MsChif to come on board (if you don’t know her, LEARN NOW!!!)…and maybe pick up a few young ones like Cherry Bomb or Melissa Coatas (a woman that not only looks good, she looks good WRESTLING MEN AND BEATING THEM CONVINCINGLY!)
http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

To be honest I’ve always seen the older Diva days as being just as goofy as the rest of the company, which when you look back at the 80′s and 90′s, especially at the Attitude Era, means you’re in for for some of the most downright bizarre matches you’ll ever see. Post mid-90′s though, things begin to take a sudden downturn, and once the 2000′s rolled around, the Divas went, for me anyway, fairly entertaining to barley tolerable. In the last five years, their quality took such a hit it makes me want to punch my TV screen. It’s true that the WWF/WWE has never taken the Divas seriously, but at least they used to be fun to watch.
Anonymous

I attribute that to the female wrestlers knowing how to sell in-ring and use the mic more than any ring skills. People like Sable, Chyna, Jacqueline, Ivory, Marlena, Blayze, Tori and more sold the sex symbol over the capable, the theater over the ability. It made them entertaining at times, but at the cost of undermining ANY respect as wrestlers.
Anonymous

Well frankly I do kind of agree about Natalya kind of but the way I look at it is she’s trying to be daddy’s lil girl by showing him that she can do what he did and prooves that but at times I feel she has her “Uber Fem” moments were she comes out wearing very little and shows it off but then turns around and show that she’s the daughter of a submission wrestler and knows what she’s doing.

I kind of tend to scratch my head about Gail Kim even though I remember her wrestling very well until she went to TNA. I don’t know how well she did in TNA and I am still glad to see her back but the thing that still disapoints me is they make it out like she can’t wrestle worth jack or her spotlight is stolen by Eve or someone else and also make her look like Kasumi or Ayane from DOA (a asian sex appeal girl basicly). I don’t like that. Also it seems like Gail is always predetermined to lose or be booted ASAP in royal rumblish type matches.

Otherwise I do agree that yeah most of the divas seem to be there for looks even though Melina I still like despite her constant leg problems.
http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

~I don’t know how well she did in TNA”

Her feud with Kong main evented an episode of Impact and brought positive attention to the company and acclaim to the Knock Outs so of course TNA low balled her in contract negotiations while paying a reality star millions later on for the worst match in the companies history (until Jeffs stellar performance against Sting)
Anonymous

Guess It was a good idea for Gail Kim to stick it to TNA huh. Good call Gail.

Anonymous

The WWE womens division has almost always been awful, it was horrible in the 80′s when Moolah was on top despite being two decades past her prime, it was watchable but never special during the 2000′s, and the only time it ever actually resembled anything truly indicitive of what women’s matches should be was back when WWF had a talent exchange with AJW. It’s best not to hope for anything from it, unless Aurora Rose Helmsley wants to become a pro wrestler, it’s DOA forever.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

Don’t we have something like 20 years before that happens, though?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with you here. I rather enjoyed the Womens Division in the eighties, although I will freely admit I may have the nostalgia blinders on here. Anyway, I found the Divas merely tolerable in the 2000′s, and in 90 they were all over the map admittedly, but at least there were spikes of quality. Nowadays it just seems like a never ceasing downhill run.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

In this current social climate, when those who are in authority appear to be doing questionable things, people are looking for real heroes. As far as the WWE goes, we have CM Punk, who by the nature of his very gimmick (heel or face) is a rebel against the status quo. In a world that glorifies alcohol and sex, his Straight Edge ways go against the grain. The difference between whether he’s heel or face is based on the subtle bend he takes, whether he’s altruistic or egotistical.

That makes him perfect for a neo-Stone Cold role. Regardless of whether you agree with his views, he’s so consistent and passionate about them that he’d even fight the system for them. Being allowed to cut loose to a degree is the best thing WWE could have done for his character, because he’s showing that he’s got mic skills to match his in-ring ability and that those mic skills can sell his anti-establishment character even better than Cena sells merch. And if people can believe in Punk’s character, they’ll be willing to buy /his/ merchandise (along with PPVs and tickets), which is good for the company.

But of course, one good character needs another to create good feuds. Basically, creative’s work is never done. But with a younger man now at the helm of the day-to-day operations, and the creative team looking as if they’re smartening up, we could be in for a new era in the WWE…one that cements its place as THE primary wrestling promotion around, with its only real competition being not TNA (barring an insane turnaround), but Ring of Honor.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

Also, Kelly Squared can’t run the ropes? …Can we give her over to Stone Cold next season on Tough Enough, please?

Seriously, people were KICKED OFF OF THE LAST TOUGH ENOUGH because they couldn’t run the ropes worth scrap. *facepalm*

Anonymous

I can argue with you about K2 but I do agree about K2 otherwise. I know she got into the biz through Paul Hayman and is there more for smiles n sex appeal. However why some of the people who got voted off for tough enough for the rope reasons were because they were unfit, didn’t bring character to it, and or were not doing it safely.

http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

Okay, I admit to a bit of exaggeration there. But the point remains that it’s inexcusable for an “established” WWE wrestler, be they Superstar or Diva, to be unable to run the ropes. And it’s DOUBLY egregious an error for K-Squared, since this is a CHAMPION we’re talking about. It shows a lot about how much the Diva Div is devalued (hello alliteration) when the FRICKIN’ CHAMP is lacking in fundamentals.

http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

I just don’t get the hired for sex appeal thing because there are a ton of women in Shimmer who can wrestle and look amazing. You have to take into account the WWE has professional make up people so Kelly Kelly in reality probably isn’t any better looking then any other girl that works out and stays healthy.
I really have to agree with Jeremy Kelly Kelly as a champion is ridiculous. If you hold a belt and cannot perform for more then 2 minutes without making yourself look inept you should not be in the ring. Although should we give her props for innovating the one legged head scissors?
Anonymous

I tottally agree with you guys. She can’t handle the ropes quite well yeah she’s Women’s champion? again people like Beth, Gail and Natalya are more deserving since they have sex appeal, skill, and experince. K2 just has sex appeal and nothing more.

Frankly I feel they gotta have Gail Kim champion again. I’ve still been wanting to see that happen again and I don’t care if it even means her going heel again to do so.

Anonymous

Cena vs. Punk was what made this one of the best PPV’s ever. It’s not only the best Cena match ever, I think it’s the best Punk match ever, and I’ve seen Punks ROH repertoire, and the Joe vs. Punk trilogy. Sure, it was a little sloppy, but even on their best days Cena and Punk are sloppy. I couldn’t justify giving it any less than *****, and I never thought I’d say that about a John Cena match.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ramond-E-Wright-Jr/622138763 Ramond E. Wright Jr.

I think you give John Cena too little credit. As for the whole leg injury thing, maybe if CM Punk actually worked the leg Cena would have sold it more.

http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

The Thing with Cena is, he IS this good but how often does he actually pull out a performance like this? He’s been main eventing for years and apart from his match against Michaels on Raw he really hasn’t done anything spectacular before now. Its like in the ring he does whats needed when he could go the extra mile and make hi opponent look good while still winning (not that Punk needs that) I realise its partly superman booking but he must have some say in his matches after all this time as the top guy.

Anonymous

The leg thing was a botch. CM punk did a body splash that was too low and he landed right on Cena’s knees…legit hurting him. That’s why the announcers ignored it and Cena didn’t sell it. Instead he just suffered through it till the end.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Alicea/100001783807861 Joseph Alicea

Sloppy match my ass!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jg-te-Molder/100001503808332 J.g. te Molder

You guys are forgetting Shaemus on SmackDown. He’s being shown as deadly these last few weeks to months, hell, if it weren’t for Christian deliberately not making a three count because he wanted to face Randy Orten, he’d be the WHWC.

Anonymous

Sheamus spent the previous year being buried almost every time he was on television, he was on a losing streak for four months, hasn’t won a match on PPV in a year, and hasn’t even been in a singles match on PPV since December. Sheamus is a man who’s suffered clean losses to Evan Bourne, Mark Henry, and The Great Khali. The WWE does not have much faith in him at the moment, and it’s a mistake to think they have faith in him as champion within the foreseeable future unless there really has been a regime change.

It’s a real shame, behind Punk, Cena, Danielson, and Del Rio, Sheamus is the best guy the WWE has. He’s a great and world traveled worker, has the body, a unique yet still badass look, and cuts pretty good promos. Though WWE has screwed the pooch on virtually every prospect they’ve had since WM 21, it’s only after Cena vs. Punk that I have any faith left in them at all.
Anonymous

I haven’t forgotten about Sheamus. Hell, He was my pick to win smackdown’s Money in the Bankl not Daniel Bryan. However after what Daniel said I suppose Daniel should of won for ‘charity case’ reasons but still I felt Sheamus should of won because he kept owning the crap out of 4-5 other people. Yeah sure he’s haveing an ugly streak as of now but when he comes out of it he comes back with a vengence and wins a title.

Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
Anonymous

I also think the reason why most WWE worked shoots have worked in the past is because they never feel overly scripted, and they never make the Russo mistake of saying “you see that, all the other shit we do is fake, but this shit is real.” It’d be like if Christian Bale said that Heath Ledger really tried to slit Maggie Gyllenhaal’s throat in the Dark Knight, but those other times he tried to kill her were fake.

CM Punk never said that the other shit that he does is fake, all he said were a bunch of things nobody ever thought a WWE employee would ever get to say. If a TNA worked shoot ever wants to be good, the person giving the worked shoot would have to say stuff like “I keep thinking that things might get better if Vince Russo was fired, but the stupid bimbo who runs this shithole would ruin the lives of everyone in this company before she lets that retard go.” Even then, at this point it wouldn’t work because TNA has so thoroughly overused the worked shoot that they could never convince anyone to buy a show with it.

But most importantly, Cena vs. Punk actually built to a match that would be good, that people will pay to see, that made Punk a superstar, and that people will pay to see a rematch of. No one cares what Hogan, Sting, RVD, and Anderson say in a promo because the match will be very bad, and no one wants to see them.
http://twitter.com/Professori1 Ismo Väisänen

What I loved about Money in the bank was the audience chants. First this high pitched “Lets go, Cena” and then a deep, masculine “CM PUNK”. That right there explains perfectly how the audience is divided.
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Well tonight’s RAW answered the question of Punk’s contract REALLY being up. Looks like that was a work too.
Anonymous

Considering they NEVER took CM Punk’s profile off their website, it was a pretty sure bet that he was not only still on contract but going to be around a long time. The latest Raw proves that. Earlier on, CM Punk “crashed” an interview Triple H was making at ComicCon (and THAT was just brilliance IMHO) to help cement his outsider status. Yes, it’s a work but a damned good one…

…until tonight’s Raw. JESUS FRICKIN’ CHRIST, WHY?!?!?!?!??? First you give Ray the belt ON THE FIRST MATCH, a belt EXACTLY like the one lost…which SCREAMS at everyone that not only will Ray lose that belt in a hurry, but that the WWE Title belt is USELESS because it can be replaced and given to anyone at any time. It should have taken a PAY PER VIEW to crown a new belt, not recycle the old in the first match of the night!! Oh, and to just slap the audience in the face again…they make Ray fight another match…against John Cena…for the title.

I have…I have no words for the amount of stupid in this. The only thing that saved Raw was Punk showing up and MOCKING Cena and his new ‘fake’ belt. If anything, this night made CM Punk more a hero to the true fans of wrestling and people with an IQ above 50 and/or age over 8. I so so SO want to see Punk beat the crap outta Cena now and take THAT belt away too…and burn them both.

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Yeah, I wish they didn’t advance this storyline at the expense of Rey. Fuck, if you were going to just have Cena end up with the title, Triple H should have came out and just rebooked the match to a triple threat.
Anonymous

Actually it’s brilliant that they made Rey defend his newly acquired title on the same night agianst Cena. It fits the scenario that has been set up. It makes all the things Punk said about Cena being the top-guy true. The company fired their own owner to keep Cena onboard so it’s only natural that they’d want to get the title back on him asap. Waiting for the next pay-per-view would have made Punk’s return less impactful. Besides did anyone really want to see another Rey title reign? Didn’t think so.

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Rey’s “underdog” tag is more tired then Cena’s. If you can beat 7 foot guys like Kane over and over and over again why the hell would anyone think you’re ever in trouble because of your size?

Punks “new” music made me mark out like those little kids Cena salutes to every week, it brought back memories of that old ROH promo they ran on the old Wrestling Channel.

Cena is pretty much already a heel to everyone over the age of 15 if they keep doing things like giving him this title shots at the expense of other kid favourites the WWE can turn him heel in a really natural unforced way by having Punk just asking him if realised what the company is doing to protect him and seeing if he will make the choice to stand up for himself.

Anonymous

(Punks “new” music made me mark out like those little kids Cena salutes to every week.Cena is pretty much already a heel to everyone over the age of 15 if they keep doing things like giving him this title shot at the expense of another kid favourite the WWE can turn him heel in a really natural unforced way by having Punk just asking him if realised what the company is doing to protect him and seeing if he will make the choice to stand up for himself. )

I think that’s the point of ‘Cocked Up Personality’ or whatever the title of the song is (It’s in GRAND THEFT SAN ANDREAS even though my nickname for it is ‘Hot dog and potatoe chips’) is exactly as you said that it’s CM Punk getting anyone above 15 (I say 13 but whatever) to root for CM Punk.

However I feel CM Punk can make this really really really work if he would stop talking smack about the fans being tools and stop complaining about the whole “I’m not in this” or “I’m not in that” crap and just bash on the ‘Cena fans’ as opposed to useing the ‘WWE Universe’ when some of the ‘WWE Universe’ does support CM Punk like the whole Ice Cream thing. The whole Ice Cream thing worked because he hit Vince were it hurt about Vince not being for the true fans which the adult fans were like “YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!” while Vince looked like he was egged in the face.

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Do you not think its a bit lame to constantly have a guy talking up the fans and act like an over the top Dudley Doright?
I also think its more the title “WWE Universe” then the actual group. Were wrestling fans and Im pretty sure even the little kids would watch a local indy show if they got the chance, it was just a part of WWE trying to act like they were the be all and end all of wrestling which they didn’t want called wrestling.

Cena comes out and he starts hollering and hooping about “the WWE Universe” and how he loves the “WWE” and it just sounds like he’s towing the company line which comes off as, The Rock said, phony. Now I know in real life Cena is an incredibly nice guy who puts himself out for fans and does loads for the Make a Wish Foundation but his in ring character isn’t real, its a ridiculous cartoon that people can’t empathise with. How would you feel about a work college that kept going on about how great the company is and using company terminology?

Punk on the other hand is a bit of a self righteous douche but he loves wrestling and wants to be the best wrestler, he wants to win the title for himself. He doesn’t know us personally so why would he feel like he owes us anything?

Anonymous

“Rey’s “underdog” tag is more tired then Cena’s. If you can beat 7 foot
guys like Kane over and over and over again why the hell would anyone
think you’re ever in trouble because of your size?”

Because Rey Mysterio is one of the best workers in the history of wrestling, has never had a decent world title run, and Kane is terrible in every way.

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As my question was “why the hell would anyone think you’re ever in trouble because of your size” I Don’t get how being in your opinion one of the best workers who has never had a decent title run has anything to do with his underdog tag being over used. In fact your high estimation of him actually adds to my assumption that he shouldn’t be played as an underdog after being at the top for so long.

“Kane is terrible in every way”
Not going to argue your opinion of a 7 foot 300lb guy who consistently puts people over with no ego and is still one of the better big man wrestlers in the company fair enough you don’t like him but that doesn’t stop the fact that having an under average size guy beat up someone so much bigger and stronger than he is hardly paints him as an underdog.
Anonymous

Rey beats up his opponents with his fantastic lucha offense and treating his body like a human missile, I’ve never seen a bad Rey Mysterio match at any point in my life, even when he’s feuding with the most pedestrian workers on the roster, such as Kane, Batista, and Chavo Guerrero, he finds a way to bring out the best in them. He’s also managed to stay relevant in every company he’s worked in, and got over huge in AAA, ECW, WCW, NJPW, and WWE despite his size and lack of promo ability.

Kane is a big, immobile hoss, and has always been a big, immobile hoss. Kane is as man who’s been in long matches with Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, and Rey Mysterio, and he barely got by with a *** match in every one of those encounters. Kane’s best match ever was with Chris Benoit at Badd Blood 2004, it was a ***1/2 encounter at best, I wouldn’t even put it in the Top 50 of Benoit matches, and it wasn’t even the best match on the card that night. Kane wouldn’t even make the Top 30 of any of those previous guys I mentioned, and in Shawn Michaels case, he might not even make the top 100. Kane has spent over a decade as a WWE main eventer, and you would think that at some point the style would just absorb into him through muscle memory or something, but it never did.

Even then, when it comes to holding down talent, Kane is a far worse offender than Rey. Mysterio has put over just about everyone on the WWE roster that comes his way, and Kane was the second in command to the Undertakers reign of terror back in 2001, and helped bury an entire promotion in the process.
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I never said anything about whether or not Rey has had good matches or that Kane was better then him I just said Rey has been booked too strong for too long to be considered an underdog. I chose Kane because Rey has won a lot of matches against him despite Kane out weighing him by 100+ pounds. After years of winning matches against people bigger then him I find it hard to accept that he is ever in trouble just because he’s shorter or lighter then his opponent.

Anonymous

Ah, but DID they play it that way, or are they still trying to push the party line? Remember that Cena PROMISED The Rock a title shot at the next Wrestlemania. I think that maybe the WWE is still not ready to give up on Cena as Superman.

Anonymous

Well i think it would be stupid if they have Cena hold onto the title forever until WRESTLEMANIA. Cena had to lose it to someone and some day. Why not MITB and CM PUNK? If Cena keeps the title and wins all of his matches BSly until then I would be very mad and I would feel it’s like the final Batista storyline again.

Duct tape? really?

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I’ll forgive the bullshit booking with Rey IF Punk calls them out for it next week. So-far, this story-line has been handled very good and it hasn’t disappointed yet.

Anonymous

Well I kind of beg to differ on your opinion on two accounts.

1: I felt Rey’s second match against Cena was preatty darn epic. I think HHH did what he did to spice things up and make Raw seem like it’s still watchable despite being in shambales and CM Punk (maybe) be right on how the biz may go down the toilet with HHH and Steph being in charge. The down side is we have a crow cheering for both Cena and Rey Rey while we do have that ‘Let’s go Cena/Cena sucks’ chant thrown in. Frankly I had no issue of them haveing a double title match on that Raw cuz I lost track of how many RAW’s had no heavyweight title matches while when I first started watching the show they practicly tried to have the heavyweight title fought for in a main event almost every week. They even anted the types like TLC, Ladder, or even tripple threat. Now it’s like their lucky to book it.

2: I think it would be better if they do have CM Punk VS Jhon Cena again as opposed to Rey Mysterio VS Jhon Cena because if it is Cena VS Rey it would be face VS face. with CM it would be Heel (Even though the fan base seems to beg to differ it seems) Vs Face. However as I said in a above post I think it would be wiser to make it a 3 way threat match at Summerslam by includeing Rey Mysterio instead of just Cena VS CM.

I don’t think what they did was wrong just a setup to somthing that could be halfway decent even though it would probably be face vs face vs heel.

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Hey, I just wanted to mention that…. at Raw, Cena finally started selling his leg. Better late than never, huh?

Anonymous

You know Cena. He likes to show he’s Mister invinceble one minute, then sell the leg the next.

But of course this is Jhon ‘I can’t act’ Cena were talking about after all.

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No, he didn’t show up in that raw….instead they waited a week! I hope punk kicks cena’s ass again.
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LOL A 6 year old kid called EXACTLY what would happen on RAW.

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Mother Ace

nice! that was the cutest thing ever. Spoony should post that link here too. Kinda says it all when a 6yr old step by step calls the upcoming plot twists. The writers for WWE clearly ARE 6 year olds.

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I wouldn’t say that Cena is awful when it comes to wrestling ability; he has had 5 star matches with people (Kurt Angle and Shawn Michaels).

Also speaking of Stone Cold, I have always wondered why nobody seems to mention him when it comes to the list of names of people who don’t job often (such as HHH,Hogan, Cena, Rey or Undertaker) when you can count all of Austin’s clean losses on one or two hands (depending on your definition of clean) after he became a huge main eventer. Not that I hate Austin; I just find that curious.

Overall I loved this PPV: Cena vs. Punk actually might be my pick for match of the year but we shall see.

Keep up the good work Spoony :)

Btw has Mark Henry Lost weight? I have noticed something different about him latently

Anonymous

Henry has been performing more and acting less lugish which I agree with. I felt he wasn’t doing much as a face even when he was with MVP. I do know supposedly he has a past even though I’m sure it was storyline reasons but I remember they did a D’Lo Brown/Mark Henry storyline where Mark was ‘eating to much and needing to lose weight and excersise more’ thing which ends with Henry going Heel cuz Henry was all like “i can do what I want” type thing which ended with Brown winning if I remember right. Again I don’t know about Henry much but I do see where your comming from but at times I kind of wonder cuz at I think last years World’s Strongest Man (actual competition btw) which I saw on TV one day I didn’t see Mark Henry compete when supposedly Mark Henry does and has competed. Otherwise Mark Has been doing better than he has been and surprisingly has been doing top rope stuff when it seems like he just rather use his manpower like he usually does.
Anonymous

Austin main event run wasn’t that long, he was often injured, and when he did lose, he mostly lost in ways that made his opponents look like superstars. The only times he refused to job was when he knew a guy wasn’t a star (Billy Gunn), was severely injured in a previous match with said worker (Owen Hart), or wanted to job on PPV instead of free T.V. so the feud would make money (Lesnar). Why would anyone complain about that?

That’s not even taking into account that Austin’s one of the best workers in wrestling history, the best promo ever, charismatic as hell, always draws the loudest pops you can get. Not to mention that Austin jobbed clean to Chris Jericho, The Rock, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, and Triple H within the short period he was a main eventer, by no means a small number, and the jobs to Angle, Jericho, and Benoit were all via submission.

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Frankly, I think they need to make the Main event at Summerslam a triple threat now. Obviously they’re going with Cena vs. Punk, but the should add Rey to mix for two reasons: 1. they can’t beat what they did at MITB, whatever crowd they have at Summerslam just CAN’T be as hot as the one in Chicago, and that’s going to hurt the match by comparison. Adding Rey changes the match dynamic, so it won’t necessarily be compared. 2. Storyline: Rey get’s a rematch clause, and Punk offered him a title shot anytime he wanted it. This makes the match easy to make, and feels like a natural extension of the story they’ve been telling. What do you think?

Anonymous

I agree on both accounts. Sure Alberto won n all but as usual Rey rey stole the show. also I admit that the Cena/Rey RAw match was preatty darn epic surpriseingly. Also your right Rey Rey has a remtach. Smart person would say PPV and not Raw. If they blow it on Raw Guess what’s gonna happen? Alberto interfere’s then we’ll probably get another Rey/Alberto PPV Grudge match (Again!). I hope they do as you say and tripple threat it for not only Rey’s sake but CM’s and Cena’s sakes as well since those two at least have unfinished biz.

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This is why I hate the MITB concept. Can you imagine If they had to go through all this building up to Austin vs Michaels? Punk could very easily be the guy who brings in the next big era of wrestling and Cena is the perfect foil but know they have a guy with a briefcase who doesn’t really fit in to the story line who can take away the symbol of the WWE that they are fighting over.

MITB is the ultimate embodiment of WWE passing the belts round to try and force create Wrestling’s next big star. Punk has held the top belt a few times now but if his win in Chicago didn’t wake people up to the fact that the journey (build up) is sometimes more important then the destination then there’s no hope for the WWE Creative Team.

Im sorry but why does everyone need to be world champion? It should only be the people who can carry the company that fight over it. This is why they really need to restore the importance of the IC title so guys like Del Rio and Swagger have something to fight for and show how they carry themselves as champion rather then just shoving them onto the main event scene after a year or less just to watch them flounder when all the attention is on people like Cena.
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This is why I hate the MITB concept. Can you imagine If they had to go through all this building up to Austin vs Michaels? Punk could very easily be the guy who brings in the next big era of wrestling and Cena is the perfect foil but know they have a guy with a briefcase who doesn’t really fit in to the story line who can take away the symbol of the WWE that they are fighting over.

MITB is the ultimate embodiment of WWE passing the belts round to try and force create Wrestling’s next big star. Punk has held the top belt a few times now but if his win in Chicago didn’t wake people up to the fact that the journey (build up) is sometimes more important then the destination then there’s no hope for the WWE Creative Team.

Im sorry but why does everyone need to be world champion? It should only be the people who can carry the company that fight over it. This is why they really need to restore the importance of the IC title so guys like Del Rio and Swagger have something to fight for and show how they carry themselves as champion rather then just shoving them onto the main event scene after a year or less just to watch them flounder when all the attention is on people like Cena.

Anonymous

Triple Threats only draw if the feud is stale, and the new addition actually matters to the story as opposed to just being filler. If Rey was added, it’d just be filler, and even then, this is the hottest feud in the world at the moment, so it doesn’t need extra intrigue.

Even with all this, Punk and Cena can have just as good of a match as they had at MitB. Punk being the real champion with a clean pinfall victory over Cena gives the match a whole new dynamic. Even though the crowd won’t be as hot at the start in L.A. as opposed to the Chi-Town crowd, Punk and Cena are still the most over guys on the roster, so it’ll still be a hot crowd. Furthermore, J.R. will be commentating the Summerslam match., making it infinitely more watchable than anything involving that shithead Cole.

They just need to give Punk and Cena plenty of time, have a clean finish, and put Punk over. At the very least it’ll be great, and they might even surpass MitB with J.R. on their side.

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A pretty nice audio interview of CM Punk. Plenty of backstage info on how this whole storyline has unraveled.

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Anonymous

Here’s an interesting footnote. In his ‘rant’, CM Punk complained about not being in the promotional poster for Money in the Bank, even though he was in the main event.

Now, he owns the real WWE Title and Cena has the ‘fake’ one…and they are the main event AGAIN at Summer Slam to settle things somehow.

…and the four people pictured in the website’s splash page are 3 non-title holders and John Cena. I mean Alicia Fox? REALLY?!?

Anonymous

Alicia Fox? That’s more insulting than putting a soggy bag of shit with an angry face drawn on it in your place.

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I wonder if Vince was going to go to The Undertaker for advice. It wouldn’t have been the first time!

Anonymous

Vince: GODDAMNIT! That son of a bitch Punk just got re-hired, and those bastards on the board relieved me of my duties. What the hell am I going to do now!? How about you, Dead Man? What do you think I should do?

Undertaker: *glares at Vince. Thunder in background* Make him rest. In. Peace.

“Next week, the video game GTA:WWE is released….”

Nicolas Awad

Wow. As much as I dislike Cena for being a stale act at the top, I have to disagree with something in specific: his wrestling ability. Cena’s a good wrestler. He’s may have the 5 moves of doom (that every wrestler in the top spot has, don’t kid yourselves) but he’s pretty much always been able to get a response in any of his matches. To call him a marketer rather than a wrestler when dozens of veterans pay tribute to him as one is insulting to the man’s dedication.

Anonymous

Um…what veterans? Who? Got any names?? I see Cena in the same light as Hogan, a person that was limited in ability but knew how to sell what he had and appear competent. And as for the idea that everyone has a “5 moves of Doom”…well, you have a point. Many wrestlers have a recognized move set, in order to build excitement with the audience because they know what is about to happen next (usually a finisher).

However, the mark of a true artist in the ring is someone that can go beyond the standard move set and develop something on the fly. The wrestler’s ability to build a story with anyone, anywhere and surprise the audience with something new or dramatic is a key skill if you want to be considered the best. Cena…doesn’t really have that ability. After over a year of complaints about his mat skills, Cena added just one move to his arsenal…the STFU. That’s it.

CM Punk on the other hand has a multitude of strikes, holds, blows, and even some air moves that he can use. Take a look at his Wiki page…the man has at least half a dozen finishers he hasn’t pulled out yet but could and people KNOW he can.

The other side of being a great wrestler is selling the story. As a match progresses, you have to sell fatigue, injury, recovery in a realistic way and drama. Cena suffers in this area A LOT. Sure he can sell being knocked out BY A WATER BOTTLE, but no one is going to believe that crap for a second. Cena sold being hurt or worn down by Punk, but he has sudden bursts of energy where every bit of damage done to him just disappears. He doesn’t even try to create an excuse like Hogan’s “Hulking Up” bit, he just jumps up and levels a guy after being beat to shit and walks away. CM Punk on the other hand creates the image of a realistic guy doing the best he can. He shows the fatigue, the drama, the frustration and passion in every move he makes, every look on his face. When he beats you, he looks like he went through HELL to do it.

Anonymous

When I saw that Triple H was added to Punk/Cena at Summerslam as the ref, I thought maybe Hunter would somehow screw Punk out of the title and they would use the opportunity to turn Cena heel, but I’m not sure if WWE has the balls to do that. But I think a Cena heel turn would be the only reason WWE would have John win. Then they could have CM Punk chase the title trying to defy the odds against The Corporate Champion Cena with the COO behind him, kinda like a throwback to the Austin/McMahon/Rock days,

Anonymous

OR Triple H could screw Cena AND side with Punk in an attempt to make Cena a legit hero?

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Cena did some pretty damn good promo work last night. He wasn’t goofy and over-the-top like his promos usually are.
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I had a few problems with Smackdown.

1. why did we have yet another over long Triple-H opening segment when all it did was have Christian announce something that was dismissed and will have no bearing on the match? Why not have Orton and Christian cut a promo against each other?

2, why was the world champion in the first match of the show while Orton was yet again in the main event?

3. why have Bryan lose clean when he has a PPV match? Wouldn’t it have done more for the match to have Barrett cheat him out of a win? also as a heel What does Del Rio get from a clean win?

4. why have an IC title change the show before a PPV? Its this kind of thing that makes the belt look unimportant.

Im still worried Punks just going to side with H at Summerslam just to give Cena another massive face run before ‘Mania. if that happens it will just show WWE won’t change even if its offered to them on a plate and like Impact after Hogan got his claws in it will just show there’s no point in hoping. I know im being negative but I won’t feel happy until Punk moves beyond JC.
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Wow, there was some pretty bad booking tonight.

1. They start the show with an impromptu random 6-man tag match. You know, you could have had the Intercontinental Title defended there instead of an unpromoted match on Smackdown.

2. Beth lost clean? Why? Way to kill off momentum for the so-called “Diva of Destruction”.

3. DANIEL BRYAN LOST CLEAN? WHY!?

4. Christian lost? Goddammit! Why does Randy Orton need the title again?

5. CM Punk won, that’s good. Alberto then cashed in and stole the title. Ugh.

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Kevin Nash got to power bomb a younger popular guy though. The WWE should fire Russo right now….. what he doesn’t work there? Well now Im confused.

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Foot on the rope meaning Punks victory was in doubt.

Kevin Nash Power Bombing Punk in 2011. WWE fan boys are defending this but this crap stopped me watching TNA completely.

Del Rio cashing in making all the build up to the “undisputed” championship moot and pointless.

Rey Mysterio has a title shot on Raw

Why has Punk coming out and saying things need to change turned into a massive Russo-esque clusterfuck of overbooking.

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I like how their using the “official didn’t see foot on the rope” storyline when they did that storyline a couple months ago. It’s also funny how Triple H had no influence on how the match ended, he called it clean. Why did they even bother with a special referee?

It REALLY makes no sense why they’d have Daniel Bryan lose clean on Smackdown AND lose clean at Summerslam? YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDING HIM UP WWE! For the love of God, please just get rid of “Money in the Bank” contracts. Or at-least get rid of the “can cash in at any time” clause.

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HHH prevented the double countout.
And they needed the foot on rope because Cena had to lose, but losing 2 machtes fairly in one year for Cena? No Sir!

Kevin Nash? What the hell? Why? There was enough stuff going on, they didn’t need him at all.

Bryan lost to Del Rio to build up the new WWE Champion a bit and they made Bryan look pretty strong and badass even though he lost to Barret. I’d say it’ll take a few month before he’s cashing in his MitB and he will get a better build shortly before that. Or WWE decides to screw him out of his MitB contract by a “Winner gets the contract”-Match, which would suck..

And yeah the timing for Alberto sucked. Now they have 4 people in the WWE-Champion picture.

I also didn’t like the Christian – Orton match. The build up with Edge was okay, but having Christian lose again? That has been the reason, why Orton had the bigger match on Smackdown, because they treat him like the Champ even if he isn’t, because they are just looking for excuses to make a XX-times Champion as soon as possible.

And the ending of the Sheamus – Henry match was pretty lame.. it looked cool and kinda not scripted (even so it certainly was) but having Sheamus counted out? What are they building up with this? And why is there unfinished build up on a ppv?

Divas match.. I don’t even care, but it sucked in so many ways..

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I didn’t actually watch the PPV. I just read up on the results of the matches and how they ended.

Poor Miles, he was so excited to see Danial Bryan get the “Money in the Bank” briefcase and now they have him lose clean two times in a row. Bryan shouldn’t have lost clean to Alberto, they should have had Wade cost him that match. Same for Summerslam, Wade shouldn’t have won that match clean. I’m just going to guess that they’ll probably have him lose his contract to Wade at the next PPV and have him win the Royal Rumble to get his second chance. That’s just pure speculation on my part. The WWE could just have him lose the contract and do nothing with him again.

Anonymous

I could see them having Daniel Bryan lose the MIB contract in a similar fashion as Ken Kennedy (Anderson) did a couple years ago to Edge. & I didn’t see the Summerslam PPV, but from what I read about it, they more or less did all the things we thought they would do to fuck up the Money in the Bank PPV a month later.

Anonymous

I would be shocked if Bryan loses the contract to Wade also. Although I wouldn’t be surprised since they spent a long time last year over advertise Wade saying “I will be WWE champion” but recently stopped cuz of the Corre thing.

I felt Alberto’s timing was fine although agreed Rey, Cena, and CM all are after him though. Rey lost so now CM and Cena even though I think Cena will be faceing Del Rio at NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS unless (and the smart way) they make it a triple threat and include CM Punk to kill two birds with one stone.

I agree the Ortan match was over kill. They over psycho’d Randy and made it like “Randy can RKO Christian into anything”. I was expecting Edge to help unexpectedly but he prooved me wrong. I guess their going with this whole ‘Randy hears voices in his head which makes him psychotic’ storyline I guess. I guess it’s only a matter of time Randy goes heel again since he does these crazy looks n smiles like he use to. However I am shocked he hasn’t had any *ahem*’s yet when he is about to RKO someone since use to when he competed against HHH which I felt was f***ed up.

I agree the Henry/ Sheamus match ended bad. I am guessing their trying to build up Sheamus to be the guy to defeat Mark Henry?

Frankly I felt the Diva’s match was better than the Wade/ Daniel match since there were some shocker moments in the Diva’s match while the Wade and Daniel match seemed stale as hell. I was expecting high flying or counter mania from the tswo and not punch fests. Gimme a break. And they end it with a sorry Wasteland that looked like Daniel was going to kick out of easily but nope. Wade Won. :-( At least Kellyx2 counter reversed beth’s glam slam and retained the title after screaming her head off. THAT was a shock.

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Now Nash is involved Punks pretty much dead in the water. HHH, Kevin Nash, Stephanie = Too many egos.

For me Nash coming out was to WWE that seeing the Nasty Boys turn up on Impact was to TNA. Kevin Nash is 52 years old, has two destroyed knees and has suffered a cardiac event. I’ve seen Samoa Joe’s TNA title run be nothing but build up for a match with Nash, I’ve seen AJ job cleanly to Nash after carrying the 7 foot cripple. Before that they had the Fingerpoke of doom pissing on Goldberg and now he’s power bombing the Punk angle back to 1997. Fuck all these broken down dinosaurs even Mick Foley is defending this garbage.

Sorry for rambling but WWE was about to move onto something new but instead they’ve taken two steps forward fifteen years back. Imagine if after Austin beat Shawn Michaels Crush came out and gave him a heart punch so Dlo Brown could become the champion. Would that have helped the attitude era?

Anonymous

Well after I thought about it, I think maybe the reason why Kevin Nash is back is what happened in ROYAL RUMBLE where Kevin Nash came back as “Diesal” and was kicked out by CM PUNK and Nexus. then when he went to where-ever (back to TNA?) He has been watching CM Punk (maybe) and not likeing what he has been doing.

All I know is Nash was many that were eliminated by CM Punk and Nexus in this past years ROYAL RUMBLE. However Kevin Nash is the only one to have taken action against that BS situation where CM Punk and the Nexus cronies were easily throwing people out of the ring (like Booker T) before they could do much of anything to CM PUNk and Nexus (despite one of them being thrown out but to be replaced by Mason Ryan? The big burly Batista looking guy).

PS: I still wondered what that look between Nash and Big Show was all about after Nash/Diesal was ringed out.

Anonymous

Well I still think Daniel may be misleading when he’s gonna cash in MITB. Frankly I feel Alberto earned his title since they keep political BSing Alberto because I still felt Alberto should of been in the main event in MITB VS Jhon Cena and CM Punk since (and as Jhon Cena Quoted on a RAW show) Alberto Del Rio earned a title shot opportunity.

I do agree with the foot on the rope thing being BS. I felt CM should of won ligitly and not a crappy ‘foot on the rope not being seen’ thing. I was glad at least HHH didn’t end the match in a double DQ at the one point CM and Cena were outside the ring cuz HHH was at a 9 count then was like “f*** this”, grabbed Cena, threw his a** in the ring (litterally), then grabbed CM and threw him in the ring two then yelled at the two by saying “I WANT A CLEAR WINNER!” which got the two resparked into the match. I was just not expecting HHH to end a match so BS’ly.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzjwLHRuiFU&feature=player_embedded
Everyone just watch this its the only wrestling thing that can make me smile today :)
Anonymous

I find it so funny that the Pro Wrestling Report, sponsored by ESPN, was talking Summer Slam up so much…and yet it has to be one of the worst booked PPV this year so far.

So ladies and gentlemen, I now welcome you the the Triple H Show, formerly Raw and Smackdown, where EVERYTHING shall now revolve around Triple H and his cornies rather than entertaining matches, good stories and building your wrestlers. CM Punk? Oh yeah, just forget about him. I’m sure we can get him a mid-card title rather than allow him to have his re-match for the title Alberto just took.

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I looked at the results and it read like any other episode of Raw. Punks going to get lost in a Stephanie Triple-H story line just like Jericho did before Wrestlemania x8 while Cena goes on to feud with Del Rio for the title because the WWE are pathetic cowards who just pissed away renewed interest and social relevance, in favour of having the same old shit they’ve force fed audiences since 2005.

After Kevin Nash power bombed Punk my brother said “WWE has no brain, heart or courage.and that’s why they brought the great and powerful Oz back.”

Anonymous

And why did CM Punk quote “resign a lucrative contract” end quote again? “To be back for the fans” CM Punk says? For a guy that has a mouth that writes checks that his *** can’t cash I am still gonna call CM Punk a hypocrite. He should of left in style like he did.

BTW: How much is CM Punk being paid now? I wonder if they pay him as much as they paid some WCW wrestlers.

Anonymous

It’s likely he signed that contract IRL months ago, in hopes of creating this storyline and becoming a main-eventer. Well, if so then it worked for a bit…until Triple H decided to resurrect both Evolution AND Mr. McMahon Jr.
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Im not sure what you mean here? Are you mad at the Punk character or are you mad at the Punk for not making himself unemployed because of what the character said on TV?

After what happened with Alundra Blaze I really doubt Vince would okay Punk having the belt without him being under contract so he wouldn’t have left the way he did unless he was coming back.

WWE did bring him back much too early and proceeded to sabotage everything he built up before the MITB match. First by having a new champion, then by saying both belts were legitimate absolving Cena of any wrong doing, putting all the focus on Triple-H, having the Summer Slam match end under dubious circumstances, having a 52 year old man incapable of doing cardio due to his knees being made of balsa wood power bomb Punk before a third party took the belt, and finally on Raw Punk is now feuding with Nash and Cena is standing up to the WE champion.

Oh and as for the potential of any future Cena Heel turn

“Yawn..stop looking at this bizz in black and white. I am not a “heel” or a “face”, I am me. I find it comical that u truly believe that archaic ideology still exists. Today, wwe fans cheer for who they please, which is why I love this company. I should mail u a pair uf my shorts, because your stuck in 1993.”

Thats a quote from John Cena on twitter sounds a hell of a lot like Vince Russo to me.

Anonymous

I can’t believe I completely missed this for almost a month! It’s great to see another wrestlewrestle episode from Spoony. I’ve completely lost track of RAW since I last got out of hospital (… going on 5 months now?) but it looks like I haven’t missed much in terms of angles (which I don’t know is a good or bad thing…yet). I haven’t seen this PPV but it sounds like it was pretty decent, and I like the fact that the booking at least tried to put some of the smaller guys in the limelight. I don’t know if TNA has literally destroyed Noah’s spirit for doing these wrestlewrestle vids but I really hope we get some new ones at some point – I miss the cathartic 1 hour rants on the mindless insensibilities of TNA and the stupidity of its asylum inmates.

Anyway, great retrospective and breakdown of the PPV. Made me want to track down the main event matches to watch. Hoping to see more of these again in the future!
Anonymous

Looks like Spoony or Sean failed to cover Summer Slam cause that PP I felt was worth it other than Sheamus being thrown into a barricade which ended the Mark Henry match in a count out and the Wade Barret/Daniel Bryan being more likely a bore. I was also shocked about Kevin Nash post mugging CM Punk after HHH failed to see Jhon Cena’s leg on the rope which resulted in Alberto cashing in and winning money in the bank on CM Punk. The Kellyx2 match ended surpriseingly where Beth was gonna glam slam Kellyx2 and Kellyx2 was freaking out only to next see Kellyx2 reverse/counter and pin Beth Phoenix and win. I was like WOW! The starter wasn’t to bad with Del rio, Miz, and R Truth vs Rey, Koffie, and a third guy which ended in the good guys winning. I kind of felt the Randy vs Christian match went kind of overboard with Randy RKOing Christian into….anything? Seriously? Trash cans and the steel step thing? I’m kind of gonna hate Smackdown this friday I bet cause I bet Christian is gonna come out and go “THAT MATCH WAS UNFAIR! THE WHOLE WORLD WAS AGAINST ME! EDGE came out and DIDn”T EVEN BOTHER TO HELP! I was unessarly beaten by Randy Orton! HE HAD NO RIGHT TO CAUSE THAT MUCH PHYSICAL ABUSE! *Whine, whine whine*” Lol. If Christian leaves or resigns with TNA because of the ‘unfair treatment’ I wouldn’t be surprised. The Christian/Randy match wasn’t half bad but I just didn’t like how Christian seemed like he was acting like a wussy at a few moments then put up a little of a fight and allowed Randy post mania Christian to win the title.

Over all Summer Slam was worth it and I kind of feel it may of been a bit better that MITB even though frankly I never saw MITB. I more likely see major PPV’s like Wrestlemania or Royal Rumble or Summer Slam and miss the minor ones. I have seen a few minor ones before and I still thought last years NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS was good.

Anonymous

I’m glad you enjoyed it…but…honestly, I think this was one of the worst PPV this year so far, for the booking (That means how the matches were set up, who did what and who won…and the afteraffects).

Anonymous

True in a way though. I remember PPVing the PPV that had Jericho make his return and I felt the booking of that one was worse. The matches weren’t exciting, most ended in DQ, and the after effects were dumb. A perfect example was the Jericho match. JBL interfered because ‘Jericho ‘touched’ him’ and JBL started wailing on him afterward. that ended the match in a DQ. I believe that was the final match too? How lame can you get with that? Then it resulted in a short JBL VS Jericho rivalry and I believe that was when later on lead into Jericho going heel again and the whole JBL intercontanental title and Shawn Michaels slave thing.

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“Kevin Nash appears on the stage. Nash tells Punk this isn’t over yet and Punk puts Cena down. Nash walks to the ring as Punk waits for him. Punk turns around to an AA from Cena for the win and the match at Night of Champions.

Winner and New #1 Contender: John Cena”

This is how I now feel about the Punk angle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muEnLlycOn4
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Seriously this is how Cena Vs Punk ends?

Free TV, KEVIN NASH interfering in 2011 and John Cena becoming number one contender?

WWE have re-established the status quo and have put the first guy who has generated a high level of interest who isn’t called Cena or Orton into a feud with a 52 year old with bad knees from 15 years ago.

Before I said WWE was stagnant but this is like intentionally pissing into fresh water during a drought.

Anonymous

Yup, this is how you attempt YET AGAIN to cast John Cena as a hero, at the expense of the only decent storyline the WWE has managed in about 4-5 years. The only thing that could possibly save this is if he can spin this into generating more interest than the Cena/ADR angle…which is a shame because both ADR and the belt deserve more respect.

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Funny how the Nexus got raped by JC at last years Summerslam. Creative must think its a good idea to generate a buzz during the Summer but don’t want to commit themselves to any long term hard work to keep it going beyond that.

Anonymous

I’m actually pretty cool with where the Punk story-line is going. You DON’T have to be champion to be the star of the show. Despite not being in the title scene Punk has gotten ffar more screentime in the past few weeks than Cena. By not being champion Punk keeps his “underdog being hassled by the man” status. This will serve in Punk getting more face cred with the audience while Cena generates more heat.

I think this whole thing is setting up for Punk vs Corporation fued for the rest of the year resulting in Punk vs. HHH ala Austin vs Vince.

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Im not happy where the Punk story-line is going because Triple H is refusing to look weak, Cena is wrestling another heel (so unless Del Rio is being turned it will be a while before JC does likewise) the best opponent they can give CM Punk in the mean time is Nash, and the most important thing WWE creative has dropped every ball its been given for the last half decade so I really don’t think they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

I never thought he had to be champion but feuding with Kevin Nash is a waste of the time and talent of CM Punk. Nash is a big part of of WCW’s collapse, he was the lowest drawing WWF champion of all time, feuding with him stunted the careers of both Samoa Joe and AJ styles, he is about as mobile as Khali. Why is Punk feuding with him? Because people cared about what he did when he stood next to Hulk Hogan? Is that really going to help Punk bring round the younger fans who were babies when WCW closed their doors? or maybe its to bring round people who watched Kevin Nash ten years ago when he was already passed his prime? I really hope it goes somewhere but after 5 years of Cena/Orton/Triple-H main events I just don’t have the patience to watch the WWE hold a hammer over a hot iron while they wait for Cena’s last remaining sparks to go out.

Anonymous

It STILL feels like WWE really wants Cena to finally get over and be the Next Hogan. Honestly..they don’t really have many faces to start with and Cena really is the only one they can market right now toward their chosen demographic (kids 6-12).

So why not change the demographic? No matter how you play it, the money comes from the parents. The biggest haydays of wrestling were during the times they targeted the 18-30 crowds, and they are the ones with the cash…so why not them? Why not evolve the storylines into something MORE than the old and worn-out short-term ideas…and into a intergrated product with a start, middle and end to each story…kinda like a season to a show? Maybe? Anyone?

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Rey, Sin cara, Kofi, Hornswoggle, Santino, Randy (Well, he might not be for kids.. or is he? I guess he is, who else would like him?), Riley and now also Sheamus. Punk is pretty much the only not-heel, whos character’s demographic at this point aren’t kids, isn’t he? Maybe also Bourne? But come on, you can’t tell me that the WWE really needs Cena for the Kids to stay interested.

On the other Hand, besides Punk is there ANY ‘Wrestler’ in the WWE who’s character ist clearly NOT for kids at the moment?

But yes, the WWE fucking needs to change their demographic to 18-30 year old people. Damn it, it’s WRESTLING, it’s brutal, it’s gross, it’s extreme, it’s fun to watch AND IT’S NOT FOR CHILDREN! Even so children love it, they would love to watch porn, too. Now that I think about it, that probably explains the Divas..

Anonymous

Not for kids? Let’s see. Orton, Christian, Miz, Bryan, Rhodes, Punk obviously, the ENTIRE Divas division…hells, anyone you did NOT mention is for the adults.
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Orton is pretty much for kids (and teenage girls).. just listen to who cheers for him. Miz, Rhodes and Christian are heels, that are hated by kids, which makes them kinda for kids, did you hear the Christian promo? That was straight out of any kids show. The Divas are really for nobody who likes wrestling.. Bryan, yeah, he is the only real face right now, that is more for adults than for kids. And as said, Punk is Punk and the only thing, that makes me watch WWE at this point.
Anonymous

I totally agree. I feel like CM PUNK is kind of fighting for that (even though he did say to HHH ‘You may live in the past which is wrong but I weep for the future’). I think they should go back to the Hell in the Cell, the hard hitting, Hard Core matches, people being on fire, being hit by cars, Diva stripping matches, being thrown out of peoples windows stuff. Screw what Brett Hart wants.

PS: “Is there any wrestler who is clearly not for kids at the moment?”

Mark Henry right now until they make him a face again. I feel like their useing him maybe as a ‘Don’t be a bully, be a star’ promo tool (as Henry being ‘the Bully’) at the moment. Orton I agree seems to be for women 16 +, Christian maybe cuz of the whineing, Rhodes for the mask thing with Dibiase, Diva’s defenetly (gotta have a TNA factor somehow), Kane if he comes back, HHH since he’s in charge, and Miz and R Truth (especially R Truth when he came out in confederate colors. I doubt anyone under the age of 10 would understand the double meaning of that). Daniel Bryan is kind of for kids despite not saying much but you do see him in pre PPV promo and other random stuff talking about things while being around kids.

Anonymous

“I am not happy where the Punk story-line is going”

Well frankly I could care less about the punk story line. What I still find laughable is he was all talk and it turns out to be just that. He talked about change and well frankly I liked his idea of ‘change’ which was ‘Going to Ring of Honor with the WWE title and *&^&%&^%^ the WWE’. I would of been very very very interested in how things would of been the past two PPV’s without him and probably a crapload of fans hateing the show since the point of the title lost meaning. It would be like if Alberto won the title from Cena or something and it would be like ‘the last time I checked the true champion was CM PUNK and he told the peeps F U which made him awsome’ and Alberto being a B.S. champion. But instead C.M. Punk resigned with the WWE (Into a ‘lucrative contract’ as he may put it maybe) and has all this stuff and talks about ‘change’. I agree that this Kevin Nash thing is a bit odd (even though I still feel ROYAL RUMBLE has something sorta to do with it since C.M. PUNk lead Nexus to boot him out when Nash entered as ‘Deisal’). However if they work this right I think this could lead into a storyline were Leonidus or whoever that ‘Talent relations guy’ is is trying to ‘use people to overthrow HHH’ or AKA overthrow HHH and Leonidus take over HHH’s position.

I still have this odd feeling Leonidus may of been RAW’s GM maybe because on the Vince gets beat up by Nexus show the RAW GM tried to out manage Vince which made Vince go “I AM NOT GOING TO BE OVER-RULED BY A STUPID COMPEUTER! THIS IS MY SHOW!” I kind of feel Leonidus is trying to do that now.

I know it’s just a show but I still feel like CM PUNk is doing was to much stuff similar to what Brett Hart and Jericho did and he’s laughably paying for it by proveing (and as HHH said) he’s like everyone else that he’s just in it for him.

http://twitter.com/Saronard Leo Schrey

“Hey, guys, I got a great idea: We book a sucky storyline and have one of the persons involved pointing out in great detail why the storyline sucks, but then he takes part in it anyways!”

Anonymous

You know, it works.

Oh and SURPRISE SURPRISE, Triple booked HIMSELF in a major PPV vs Punk, rather than Nash who can barely move. Didn’t take long for him to move into the biggest storyline in the WWE, did it?

However, I feel this may work in CM Punk’s favor. If it puts Punk over as being able to shut down Triple-H both on the mic AND in the ring, Punk looks all the much better…

…and even more so if HE was the one controlling Nash in the first place, setting up the WWE office for a fall….

http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

What the 52 year old man that has been on steroids for 3 decades, with two bad knees and who has also suffered a cardiac event was taken out of a PPV match after getting a physical? christ alive Im shocked to my very core.

While I was hoping HHH would become a sort of Mcmahon figure and stay out of the ring until its time for him to get his just deserts it looks like old H can’t help himself. But then he is the guy who even got into a feud with Eugene so he could ride the crowd support, Why do people forget that when Helmsley and Evolution started taking up all of Raws time Smackdown (under Heyman) actually became the most watched wrestling show on TV.

sorry Im a tad depressed as a wrestling fan because I tried to watch Impact. Why do they do that reality TV style for their interviews when it comes over so bloody insincere.

Anonymous

“ Why do people forget that when Helmsley and Evolution started taking up all of Raws time Smackdown (under Heyman) actually became the most watched wrestling show on TV. ”

Maybe because they totally forgot about the attitude era which is and when I thought people were ‘Really watching it because it was the most watched wrestling show on TV’?

Anonymous

HHH vs Punk….totally called it! Knew there was no way in hell that Nash would be actually in a match. Nash is better suited for being a mouth-piece and occasionally throwing out a powerbomb here and there. I know how Creative at WWE thinks. They love to rile up the Internet Wrestling Crowd by making it seem a story-line is going one place, then they sit and laugh while the IWC have a shit-fit then they swerve them.

http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

“They love to rile up the Internet Wrestling Crowd by making it seem a story-line is going one place, then they sit and laugh while the IWC have a shit-fit then they swerve them.”

I agree and that is the problem. They don’t build on anything because they prefer swerves and things like it for the short term reaction rather then building things so fans genuinely care about it. Jim Cornette described it best

“In the old territory days, when business was drastically down, even in danger of folding up, you would “hotshot” the territory. You would give them as much blood, violence, heat, angles and edgy content as you could get away with, until the fans either came back or the territory closed down. If they came back, the art was to pull the hotshotting back soon enough and get them hooked on the wrestling again, before it got to where you “couldn’t follow it”, and you closed up anyway. The base of it all was still two guys are gonna fight, who’s gonna win? With the corporate world involved, the ratings wars, WWF vs. WCW, WWE vs. TNA, etc., wrestling has been hotshotted for 15 years straight, and it’s finally gotten to where we can’t follow it. So many angles and so many bumps, with special effects and outrageous stunts and preposterous stories and hardcore matches with buckets of blood. ”

The beauty of the Punk angle was having a wrestler look at the way the WWE was going and saying “this is bullshit” It gave us a guy we could get behind and a cause we could cheer for. Cena was the perfect figure head of the WWE’s stagnation but they decided to throw in Kevin Nash just because fans weren’t expecting it and now Triple-H is getting physically involved because WWE won’t medically clear Nash to wrestle a singles match. Im sure WWE will make it a 3 way or have Nash interfere but instead of building HHH versus Punk they have shoved it out with only a matter of weeks to build it during the most PPV clustered part of the Summer.

http://twitter.com/BigJonGoob Jon Fite

This is probably the best news CM Punk could ever hope for.

http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wrestling/wwe-news/john-cena-no-longer-the-top-merchandise-seller/
Anonymous

It’s been a few months since Cena vs. Punk. Though even after I saw the match for the first time, I knew it was the greatest wrestling match of all time, after several months, and at least a half dozen rewatchings, it’s still the greatest match I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen hundreds of great matches.

It’s weird, Punk isn’t a great athlete, Cena’s still a pretty shitty worker, and Cena was only a few months removed from wrestling the worst Wrestlemania main event of all time, but that match still transcends every other match I can think of. From a technical wrestling perspective, Cena vs. Punk isn’t as good as matches like Angle/Benoit, Edwards/Richards, Danielson/McGuiness, or even the last three Undertaker Wrestlemania matches, but the amount of effort and creativity Cena and Punk put into that match, the way they milked the crowd, teased spots that actually delivered, made hiptosses seem like the most important thing in the world, hit all their spots despite occasional sloppy execution, performed masterful counters, went 35 minutes, and had a pretty clean finish where the right guy went over made me connect to the match in a way few matches have before, and no match has surpassed. I wasn’t even bothered by Cena no selling his knee, considering it was a shoot injury, and it didn’t factor at all into the match.

It was a WWE main event match mixed with 70′s chain wrestling, ROH strikes and spots, brilliant psychology and the hottest crowd I’ve ever seen in any match. Everything I love about wrestling, ***** easily, and no question at this point, the 2011 MOTY. I wouldn’t be suprised if I come here 10 years later saying it’s the Match of the Decade.
Anonymous

Anybody else feel that there’s no point in having this site exist if no one updates it in 6 months?

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